Katy Harvey: Hey, I’m Katy Harvey, a non diet dietitian. If you’ve spent years battling food in your body, I’m here to show you the path to healing here on the rebuilding trust with your body podcast. I teach you how to find your own freedom with food through tools, strategies, mindset shifts, and heartfelt discussions around what it means to make peace with food and your body while still existing in diet culture, I believe that all bodies deserve respect.

And that health is so much more than a number on the scale. It’s about connecting with our true selves and learning that our relationship with food is more important than the food itself. So if you’re ready to discover the freedom of rebuilding trust with your body, grab a seat. And maybe a snack. And let’s do this.

Hello and Happy New Year! Welcome to 2025. It still feels weird to say that, and I don’t know about you, but I’ll still be writing 2024 on things for months now. It’ll just take me forever to adjust to a new year. Anyway, how are you? For me, it’s feeling good to be past the holidays, and we’re not quite back to routine yet, which I’m craving, because my kids were supposed to go back to school Monday of this week, but Kansas City got a big snow and ice storm over the weekend, so we’re not quite back to routine yet, but we are on our way there.

And it was really nice to have some extra time with the family and have the kids home and off school over break. But it’s also a lot with my two little boys who are so full of energy all the time. I am someone who thrives on structure and routine. And so for us to have no structure or routine was definitely hard for me at times, but I’m working really hard to be flexible and to just be present in the moment.

And that’s my word for this year – presence. I’m curious if you have a word for the year. And if you do, I’m dying to know what it is, so DM me and let me know. It’s kind of a fun little thing to do that for me feels so much more supportive than setting some type of New Year’s resolution that won’t last more than a few weeks.

Today I have a treat for you. It is an interview that I did with a woman named Audrey Guzman who so graciously offered to tell her story in hopes that it will help other listeners, which I can pretty much guarantee it will. And I don’t guarantee things very often around here. Audrey had struggled in her relationship with food since she was a kid, and as a teen, she developed an eating disorder.

But it wasn’t until a few years ago as an adult that she got serious about healing her relationship with food and her body, and she decided to get professional help. It was through her therapy and her recovery process that she was introduced to the concept of intuitive eating, and she said this whole process has changed her life.

Settle in and get cozy for this conversation because it’s going to feel like you and your bestie are having a cup of coffee and spilling some tea. You’re going to hear the tipping point that made Audrey decide to get help for her struggles. You’re going to hear the advice she would give to someone who is struggling in their relationship with food.

She talks about how things have changed in her life. Since she embarked on her recovery and intuitive eating journey. And she shares what she does when she’s having a bad body image day, that you can do too. Without further ado, here’s my conversation with Audrey. Audrey, thank you so much for being here, and for being willing to, you know, be open and vulnerable and to share your story, because I know it’s not an easy thing to talk about, but it really does help so many other people to know that they’re not alone.

Audree Guzman: Yeah, that’s the main reason I wanted to share my stories. I’m sure it’s not that I’m not the only person who has struggled with the things that I have and I just want others to know that help is out there and nothing. 

Katy Harvey: Yes for sure! So let’s kind of start by going way back because I think it’s helpful to understand the evolution of things to understand a person’s journey.

So when you think back on your childhood, what was your relationship with food like when you were growing up? I think my relationship with 

Audree Guzman: food was very complicated growing up. I was born with hyperthyroidism. And so from the day I was born, I was always going and seeing an endophrologist for that. And so my weight was always the highest thing to be monitored, I would say.

So at a very early age, like first grade, I remember being on a diet because of my weight. And so I think. And 

Katy Harvey: Yeah, it was like from the get go.

Audree Guzman: Yeah, exactly. And so I don’t even remember not ever being on a diet. I mean, I just remember very always having none of this, the forefront. And then my parents themselves, it was The Clean Plate Club, also I think just from the very, very day ago, I had always had some kind of struggle with it. 

Katy Harvey: And then that’s an interesting dichotomy, where you’re on a diet and don’t eat too much, but also clean your plate – like an impossible standard. 

Audree Guzman: Yeah, my parents were always overweight, and I don’t know if some of it, the diet, they just didn’t know, they didn’t, that was a lot of it, they just, they didn’t know. Yeah, they didn’t know better.

Katy Harvey: Was the diet coming more from your parents or from your doctor? 

Audree Guzman: It was coming from my endocrinologist.

Katy Harvey: Got it, and was your endocrinologist saying this is what the diet needs to look like or it was just she needs to be on a diet, she needs to lose weight? 

Audree Guzman: I don’t remember giving like this is what the diet needs to look like. I remember fiber being a big thing. But I just, I do remember she just needs to lose weight. She’s overweight for her age. Got it. And like looking back now, I really was not that overweight for my age. But it is interesting how often I hear that, where people will look back on themselves at a younger age and they’re like, I don’t know why I thought or everyone else thought this was such a big deal. I look pretty normal and average compared to my peers.

Katy Harvey: So at what point. Because this was sort of put on you for, you know, at a younger age than you would have even been able to comprehend Body image and dieting and all that. So at what point do you recall Thinking that you wanted to change your body through dieting or through weight loss where like that was something you felt driven to do 

Audree Guzman: I definitely hate grade school. I was bullied a lot in school, especially in fourth and fifth grade. That’s what I remember the most because I was overweight, but I wasn’t, I mean, I wasn’t extremely overweight. I was younger and the older kids I do remember being bullied and just kind of wishing that I was smaller and skinnier. And I think that just escalated as I got into junior high and high school. 

Katy Harvey: Yeah. And for a lot of people it does, cause that’s also, you know, like puberty timeframe and just, it’s a hard age to be.

Audree Guzman: Yeah. Our bodies are going through so many changes already. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I agree. Try to sit in and there’s so many things going on. So yeah, I think for me, like the end of grade school, but it really started taking me off. I’ve seen it. And 

Katy Harvey: Was the bullying mostly about your body and about your weight or was it about other things?

Audree Guzman: Most of it was about my body and my weight. I did get bullied. Looking back now, what a wonderful thing to be bullied for being the smart kid, you know, like the nerd in school or whatever I was bullied for that, but. A lot of the bullying that I had the most impact was around my appearance. 

Katy Harvey: So when did the eating disorder enter your life? Because you had shared with me that you struggled with an eating disorder and you know, you’ve come so far in your recovery. So as you look back, obviously it’s not one day you woke up with it. Yeah. That’s not how it works, when do you think that really began? 

Audree Guzman: I really think it started at the very beginning of high school. So with my freshman summer, or going into like my eighth grade summer, I guess, going into freshman, I really started working out more, like I’d go on runs and I was training myself to work out to run a mile, lots of dailies. But that just started declining rapidly in the, I was, whenever I went into a full blown eating disorder.

Katy Harvey: So yeah, you’re getting it from Doctors from coaches, were your parents also pressuring you to lose weight? 

Audree Guzman: I don’t feel so as much. And I think at that point it had kind of dropped. Now I do remember specifically at the same point, like sophomore year, my mom was in Weight Watchers and I was going to her meetings with her and doing the weigh-ins with her, and I remember dropping weight quickly and she didn’t, she wasn’t dropping it.cI do remember that specifically. It wasn’t so much that she was pushing. My dad never really pushed me, but. I think the Weight Watchers also played into it as well.

Katy Harvey: What do you think, I mean, besides the surface level thing if you were trying to lose weight and here comes the eating disorder to help you with that. What other purpose do you think it was serving at that time of your life? 

Audree Guzman: So my mom was very physically, emotionally abusive to us and it really started escalating and since friendly is well that ramping up, I definitely think for me it was a control. It was one aspect, it was one thing I can control all my life and I really didn’t understand, but I realized that until I was coming you’re, that’s what I was serving, but it was.

Katy Harvey: Yeah, I mean, when you’re in an abuse and a trauma situation you don’t have much control. Yeah. At what point then, like, when was the eating disorder recognized as a problem? And was it you that said I’m struggling with this, I need help?

Audree Guzman: So my eating disorder, it changed and morphed over the years and even in highschool I was like low and believing it and I didn’t know that I had an eating disorder. I didn’t even realize that I was disordered eating until a few years ago when we started treating. And I didn’t start treating it specifically for the eating disorder I started. Because of just the rapid decline in my mental health and depression. Suicidal thoughts and all that and my sister. She was really pushing me to get help. That’s why I reached out to the council where I am. I had started sharing some of the things that I was struggling with. And she pointed it out to somebody else because she didn’t specialize in eating disorders so that’s kind of a winner at first.

Katy Harvey: What do you think your sister was seeing that made her so insistent that you get help? Was it that you were clearly struggling with mental health concerns?

Audree Guzman: I confide in my sister a lot and she is like the one that I go to all the time, so I was telling her like the things I was going through. I had a dating suicide twice. And I only got help for a couple, a few months after that. Nothing to improve my situation mentally. And I guess you just saw everything, you know, we grew up with and what I continued into mental health, too. 

Katy Harvey: Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I think that’s a good example of where having people you can confide in and open up to is essential because if we’re struggling with these things alone and suffering in silence, it often just, you know, comes out with these maladaptive coping behaviors.

And when you’re able to talk to someone and they’ll say, gosh, like that’s a lot, like you need to see a professional, you need to get help. Sometimes that’s the nudge that we need, or sometimes it even becomes a full on intervention. I think for people listening to know that you don’t have to suffer in silence and if you have someone in your life you trust to open up to that can be such a beautiful thing.

Now, granted, it’s you know, pick who you’re, you don’t have to go tell the whole world or broadcast it on social media or whatever, but like people you actually trust. Being able to have that connection and that support is invaluable. And then of course there’s a time and place for professional support, for sure.

Audree Guzman: Yeah, I don’t have a very big circle, but the people in it are really close to me. And those who are truly genuine, you can spot them. You don’t have to hide who you really are with them—you can just be honest and authentic. It’s easy to hide parts of yourself from the rest of the world, but with those people, you don’t have to do that.

Katy Harvey: Right Yeah, we put on that mask like I’m fine. Everything’s fine. No big deal. Despite the fact that like you’re having suicide attempts, like clearly everything is not fine. Yeah, things were definitely not okay. And then even what you said that you had a few appointments afterwards, but there really wasn’t.

Long term support or anyone who was digging in to see what’s really going on here? You know, like we need to get to the root of this. 

Audree Guzman: And like my appointments afterwards were like my very first appointment, like the lady just kind of beat me off. I was just eating lunch, which I’ve been called during, and this was like a follow up after we do the in hospital evaluation.

Katy Harvey: Yeah. Why would you want to continue getting help? And yeah, I’m so glad that you did and that you were open to it. And then I’m also really glad that the counselor that you saw who recognized the symptoms of the eating disorder was able to say, look, I don’t specialize in this, but I know someone who does.

And we need to get you to that person because a lot of people don’t realize it’s a very specialized segment of the therapy world and with dieticians, it requires additional training.

Audree Guzman: And there’s just so many things that play into it. I didn’t realize iit was all just feeding house traumas and stuff, but I didn’t know any of us until I started.

Katy Harvey: So when you started getting help and you started connecting the dots, what are some of these aha moments and these realizations that you were having? 

Audree Guzman: Yeah. So the eating or eating disorder, like bulimia and all that stuff, that really took off in high school again, my mom has a big pusher of that and towards the end of high school, like my senior year,  I kind of went on the flip side of that and was like binging and stuff more. I also moved out and entered into a very abusive relationship, and I wasn’t financially secure anymore either, so food security was also a problem, so I would eat where I could finally be able to get out of it, and I had food security again, it was like unending options of food and like that mentality of I need to eat now so I’m gonna starve you later was still there. It just continued to snowball until it was a really big problem. 

Katy Harvey: Sure, which makes sense, you know, it’s like when you have that scarcity of course then the biological and psychological drive is going to be. To eat all the food when you have access to it. And if you already have the underpinnings of an eating disorder.

Audree Guzman: Yeah. It’s crazy how it just went from one extreme to the other. Cause it was just like full binging and purging by the time I was getting help.

Katy Harvey: That’s a relatively common experience from what I have. I think one of the things that I’ve just observed in my years of working with clients is that sometimes the eating disorder struggles or symptoms will morph over time, where there might be periods where it’s more restrictive, or there’s the binging purging, or it’s mostly binging, or there’s exercise, you know it can kind of be whack a mole sometimes with symptoms, but it’s all the eating disorder, you know, it’s all kind of coming from the same place.

Audree Guzman: Exactly. You go from I’m just eating everything all the time, so now I’m gaining weight and I need to go back to the restricting. It was just a never ending cycle and it just morphed over time as my situation. 

Katy Harvey: What do you think helped you to start to break out of that cycle?

Audree Guzman: So ironically, when I started seeing my counselor for the eating disorder, who I’m still with today, I found that I was pregnant like a week after. I kind of think that was a blessing in disguise, because while some might think that would be complicated, I had a greater desire [00:18:00] to protect the baby that I was creating, which means I can’t be doing the eating disorder things because it will harm her, but it was a full year of my very mindful actions and like self awareness and full year of consistent like therapy and counseling before I really started to feel like I was out of the depth of the disorder.I wasn’t like, I wasn’t completely in remission. But I was definitely made harder to see or having to keep in chat as far as where I was. 

Katy Harvey: So having that bigger why, that child inside of you, it sounds really powerful. 

Audree Guzman: Yeah, because it was lost. It wasn’t about me at that point anymore.

It was about making sure what I was doing.

Katy Harvey: Do you feel like it has evolved from there to where your recovery did become more about you? 

Audree Guzman: So afte my daughter, that was gone because I made that fear very, I voiced it a lot. I’m like, I’m scared about what’s going to happen when I’m out of health and how that recovery is going to continue because I’m protecting her right now. But at that point I had already learned the tools. And I was more into the heydears at that point. So it really wasn’t as hard as I thought. Our biggest focus after was how to start incorporating movement back into my life, because we were fully just focused, like a game plan on food, we game planned on how I was going to approach Thanksgiving. We planned on how we were going to approach Boyle Radiation. Like it was just a game plan known around food. And we didn’t talk about anything which was disordered too from my high school. And so that was what we started playing on because I had already really learned how it is and I was doing really well as far as listening to my body.

And it’s not like a pinpoint as far as when it just all suddenly got better. But it was just. A little bit over time I started to be able to listen to my body a lot better. It wasn’t as muffled, or I didn’t realize how much I ignored my body until Now, in my recovery, and I’m like, oh my gosh, there’s just so much that she was telling me, and it served its purpose, and I mean, she was perfecting me at the time that, that I was going through everything in my childhood.

Early adulthood. But, I just hadn’t worked for her for years, and I was like, it’s so loud whenever I, my body talks to me, and I just, that was what I think I strived on the most, is the I don’t like to not film, and so eating with anything or eating beyond full or eating, doing things, exercising, and doing things to my body that doesn’t make me feel good. It was easy to listen to that. These foods make me want to hurl, and I don’t want to eat them anymore. I didn’t want to eat them

Katy Harvey: Sounds like it was for sure gradual and then as you got more connected to your body, it was like, oh, okay, my body will speak to me and tell me what it needs. And that I think what you said is really important for recognizing I don’t want to feel crummy and so I’m going to take care of myself and I’m not going to over exercise in a harmful way. I’m going to move in a way that feels good and I’m going to eat in a way that feels good because overeating doesn’t feel good.

Neither does under eating, you know, your body is going to guide you towards what those supportive behaviors look like. Okay, so when did you first hear about intuitive eating? Do you remember what was your entry point into that concept? 

Audree Guzman: It was the counselor that recommended that the eating disorder counselor went, no, because she had asked me if I’d heard anything about intermittent eating and I said, no, I’ve never heard of that and she’s I’ll recommend you to believe now because she focuses on eating disorders and intermittent eating. And so that was the first time I’d ever even heard of the term of intermittent eating. And so I didn’t really grasp or understand what intermittent eating was. And so several months into my counseling, Oh, great.This is going to be a way for me to lose weight, but I can eat what I want. That was what was on my mind. 

Katy Harvey: I think for so many people, that’s the fantasy because it’s like we’re programmed by diet culture to just always tie it back to is it going to help me lose weight? 

Audree Guzman: Exactly. 

Katy Harvey: And that was?

Audree Guzman: The goal is not to lose weight. The goal is not how my weight’s going to fluctuate up or down. That was incredible. It took me like at least a year. So it really let that fantasy go. 

Katy Harvey: Yeah, it is a fantasy. And you know, it’s that thing where you do have to be in it for the, for a long haul where you know, it’s going to take you years for most people to recover from this stuff. But when we put that in context of what you’ve been existing with these struggles for decades, 

Audree Guzman: Yeah.

Katy Harvey: Of course that is going to take time, and a few years is not that long in the grand scheme of life. 

Audree Guzman: No, it’s really not. Yeah. And it wasn’t like those were good years. It wasn’t like I was going down. I was at the bottom of the pit.

I can go anywhere else but up. I just remember it coming and just being like, I wish that I was this. I very much encourage my counselor to enjoy the journey. I’ll be barring myself. Because I, I mean, with the abusive relationship I was in, I just, I didn’t have an identity.

Katy Harvey: I mean, it sounds like you went from, your mother being abusive, then into this abusive partnership. Like you went from one abusive relationship into another. And of course there wasn’t a sense of self 

Audree Guzman: In there. No, not at all. And it’s I always had people like, you need to get out of this. Especially having a relationship, but to me, he wasn’t abusive all the time so it didn’t feel like abuse and so it’s just all I grew up with. Yeah, it was, going through counseling was hard to find myself sense of self, I guess you, that was the hardest part, but I really, it really want abusive good because I could start to see the person that I have trained or the person that at that I wish I was like, this person lose self.

Katy Harvey: Yeah, and so you learn those nuggets of wisdom about yourself along the way. I think there is a lot of beauty in the journey. Like of course we would never wish the struggle upon somebody, but the healing process there, there are so many wonderful things that can come from that.

Audree Guzman: Yeah. I just feel like before it almost felt like I was walking in a dark tunnel you know, and that’s kind of what it feels like when I look back at part of my life, but now it’s just like very bright because I can see clearly. 

Katy Harvey: That’s incredible. So if someone’s listening and they’re really relating to this and they’re struggling, what advice would you give them if they’re struggling with an eating disorder or maybe they’re just, maybe it’s not an eating disorder, but they’re struggling somehow in their relationship with food? What would you say to 

Audree Guzman: I would say for anyone struggling, the biggest thing is to have that person to confide in. Because they can often see things that you probably can’t at that point in your life. They might want to get the help that you provide, and then not be afraid to give it help. There’s a lot of people that, I feel at least, don;t worry about others. From my perspective. It was the fear of the unknown. On the other side of getting help, getting treatment, just the unknown is the what ifs, the, it’s very scary and daunting. And that road to it looks like a very daunting, long road to recovery and not taking care of yourself and taking care of people.The scariest part is just getting to the door. Once you open the door, It’s really not as bad as we have built it up.

Katy Harvey: I think that’s beautiful advice, is to not do it alone. To, yeah, lean on others for support and to just get started That’s the hardest part with anything. I heard this recently, that someone said that action creates more clarity. So it’s as we get started, we kind of learn as we go. Rather than just sort of sitting on the sidelines trying to figure out, okay, what exactly is it going to look like? You don’t know what it’s going to look like until you get into it.

Audree Guzman: The other thing that I would highly recommend, and I know this now because of counselors I’ve had in the different things that I’ve done. Finding a good therapist or good counselor is a bit like buying a good pair of jeans. Life is good. It takes a few and not all fit the same. And just because you’re not vibing with a certain therapist or counselor, it’s totally in your control to go find someone that can understand and fulfill your needs. It’s nothing on another person, but it’s your jury and you should be in control of it. So that would be my other piece of advice. Don’t just stop with one. If you had a bad experience, go search for a counselor or therapist. 

Katy Harvey: That’s such good advice because yeah, I mean, it’s we’re all human beings and of course we’re not going to vibe and jive with every single person. If you aren’t connecting or getting what you need from your current therapist, it’s okay to try somebody new. Most therapists and clinicians would want somebody. To go find the right fit for them and we’re helpers because we want to help people and sometimes we’re not the person to do that. Not writing off counseling entirely because you have one bad experience. 

Audree Guzman: The people in my circle and I feel the same way—I don’t want to get rid of the things that are important to me. But I also want people to know that you don’t have to settle. There are professionals out there who can help. So, go find the support that works for you and get the help you need.

Katy Harvey: Absolutely. Yeah. And if their feelings are hurt, like those are their feelings to have and to figure out on their own. It doesn’t mean you’re doing anything wrong. 

Audree Guzman: That’s gold because I think it’s sometimes easy to have this sort of sunshine and rainbow version of what therapy might be. And then if you get in there and you’re like this isn’t doing much for me. I feel like this sucks. That doesn’t mean therapy doesn’t work. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What about, we haven’t touched a ton on body image, so I’m curious, with where you’re at now, with how far you’ve come, how do you deal with a bad body image day?

Audree Guzman: There are far and few of me now, but at the beginning of my recovery, it was, Everything. And I think it was just some of the things that I was taught by just this is gonna, I was more bad, but just sit in front of you sometimes and just don’t judge. Work at becoming comfortable with seeing yourself in here or without you. And I think about doing that more. frequently, but I also think that the further that I got into my journey and the more that I realized that This is nothing to do with weight and has everything to do with how I feel about myself in my body how I feel physically how I feel mentally and Looking at the person in the mirror and seeing that person is so much happier than the person that I was in high school, they had nothing my way and everything to do mentally.

So when I struggle, the days that I do have a bad body image to me, I don’t even look in the mirror, to be honest with you, like it’s because I thought I’m in the mind, like I’m in that state of mind at that point that I’m just judging. If I put on an outfit and I just keep changing it because I hate what I’m seeing in the mirror, I get to the point where I either turn the mirror away or I don’t even, I put something on and walk straight out.

Katy Harvey: Love that. Yeah, I mean, and I think the different strategies here where there’s a time and place to do that mirror work and to practice seeing your body and trying to look at it with neutrality. And then there’s a time and place to be like, no, we’re not looking in the mirror. We’re not going to just stand there and scrutinize that’s not happening today.

And what you said about how it’s not actually about weight. I mean, that’s a mic drop moment there. And that’s one of those things that it’s, I think it’s so hard to wrap your mind around that until you kind of get there and start to see that, but to hear it from somebody in your shoes who has been there.

And who is in a different place now and can see that is so powerful. 

Audree Guzman: The diet industry has us brainwashed as being that thinner is happier and thinner is better. But twice the size that I was when I was struggling with my eating disorder in high school. And I’m much happier than that. It had nothing to do with weight, and so it has everything to do with looking in the mirror and loving the person you see.

Katy Harvey: And loving the person you see doesn’t mean you have to love every single thing about your body. 

Audree Guzman: No, but treating it with respect, and we’re our harshest critics, and we’re always looking at ourselves with judging eyes. But, or don’t talk to someone and be like, I don’t think you look bad at all, you know?

Try to see yourself in other people’s eyes, you know? See people that are so spiraling today and be like, I think you look great. I think you should look at it, you’re what I see, you know? Yeah. That’s an amazing human being looking right back at me. I think you should look at that too. 

Katy Harvey: Yeah, sometimes we have to borrow that from other people.To recognize that we are our own worst critic and We don’t judge others as harshly as we judge ourselves, you know and what would it be like to soften up on ourselves and be less harsh?

Audree Guzman: We see ourselves in your every single thing so you notice your eyelids are slightly droopy or you’re You know the genius of titanism imperfections, but other people really like they don’t like I can promise you again That’s all people are really talking about We’re going to be talking about your body and we’re just going to be talking about amazing human beings and that’s the difference.

Katy Harvey: Absolutely. One more question and then we’ll wrap up with some fun questions. What is one thing about your body that you’re grateful for? 

Audree Guzman: I’m grateful for everything my body has carried. And at the time, and in the times that I was struggling, I didn’t understand what the purpose was, what it was serving. But now we’ll be back. That body was so intelligent beyond like the, you know, standard, all she ever was doing in Sputnik. And I’m grateful for my body, just all in Sputnik. 

Katy Harvey: That’s really beautiful. I love that. Okay, so let’s just wrap up with some fun questions. These are my rapid fire questions, okay? So number one, what is currently your favorite snack? Like 

Audree Guzman: Oreos and you know, the classic snacks. 

Katy Harvey: Yeah, I love them! Do you like the double stuff or just the regular?

Audree Guzman: Oh yeah, double stuff. Yeah, I’m a double stuff girl too, yeah. 

Katy Harvey: What about seasons? Are you more of a winter girl or a summer girl?

Audree Guzman: I’m like a fall or spring girl.

Katy Harvey: Got it, in between! What about cats or dogs? Are you more one or the other?

Audree Guzman:  I don’t really have any pets anymore, but if I did, I think I’d call me more of a cat person because they’re super easy to take care of.

Katy Harvey: So true, and  their personalities. I love it. Don’t touch me. Okay, you can hold me now. What about TV? Any TV shows you’ve been watching recently? 

Audree Guzman: I’ve been very deep in the TV show Manifest on Netflix. Yeah, it’s really super good. I love anything on Netflix. Culture Universe and like Utopian Society, all that kind of stuff.

Katy Harvey: Awesome. Okay, and last question, what is your favorite form of self care? 

Audree Guzman: Like the stereotypical self critics that you think of massage, pedicure. Those are my favorite.

Katy Harvey: Yeah. I mean, they’re quintessential because, you know, for good reason. Any parting thoughts or anything you would want to leave people with or what do you think is the main message that you would like someone to take from your story or from this episode? 

Audree Guzman: I just want people to be more comfortable talking about their mental health to anybody and everybody. It shouldn’t be something we’re assuming that we’re asking of. Why are we so messy? I’m taking care of our brain, which is the most important thing in our body. 

Katy Harvey: Heck yes. 

Audree Guzman: That’s what I do, civically. 

Katy Harvey: Yes, let’s normalize these conversations. Stay at prom. Amazing. Thank you, Audrey so much.

Audree Guzman: Thank you. 

Katy Harvey: I absolutely love these types of real life conversations where you can hear stories of other people who have found healing and have worked through the challenges and the obstacles that they faced. It’s so inspiring and empowering to see that recovery is possible, not just for Audrey, not just for people with diagnosed eating disorders, but for you, too.

No matter what your struggles in your relationship with food and your body look like. I have included in the show notes a link to the National Eating Disorders Association if you want more information. They have a ton of information and resources on their website. I’ve also linked to my free body image guide with tons of journal prompts in it that are going to help you with the body image side of things.

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